TEXT｜Coco Yang , TRANSLATION | Eugenia Yang

「為了找尋我的真愛 GAN～BA～RE～有再大的苦～再多的累 ＷＨＯ ＷＩＬＬ CARE～」隨著熟悉歌曲時而哼唱、時而擺動，源源不絕的歡笑感染了整個攝影棚，空氣裡滿是熱情的蓬勃活力，「我覺得女人最美麗的是眼睛，如果心中沒有感恩，即使再漂亮，散發出來的眼神都不會那麼迷人。」那雙依舊愛笑的眼睛，瞬息間喚醒了所有人的青春記憶，她，是不敗女神，徐若瑄。

/全能演藝

「這個相聚讓我們從一個母親變回二十年前的小女孩，在台上的時間很短，可是好快樂、好珍貴。」憶起一個月前與好友玉城千春的同台演出，首度以中英日三種語言開唱，徐若瑄笑說彩排時眼淚就流光了，相識二十多年的異國情份，透過既知性又狂野的夜晚，唱出了彼此熱愛音樂的真摯，若將這次的感動化作一首歌，她輕輕道出歌名為《盪鞦韆》，「我們這個年齡都不太會去盪鞦韆了，所以我會想把歌名設為《盪鞦韆》，回到最純粹的孩子模樣，可以自己控制節奏，很像那晚的狀況，有慢歌有快歌、有民謠有搖滾，有知性有幽默！也許我們玩音樂的方式不一樣，但心是在一起的。」

同樣將心繫於《未來少女》的少女製作人徐若瑄，望見少女們努力揮灑汗水的身影，使她隨即想起過往的緊張青澀，謙虛表示每一個人都比當時的自己台風穩健、歌舞優異，團體中無論表現卓越亦或生澀，皆有其獨特魅力之處，更將少女製作人的角色視為自身使命，冀望能將一路走來所積累的種種感悟，無私賦予懷抱演藝夢的年輕人，「現在想當公眾人物要想清楚，抗壓性要很強，心態要絕對的正面，轉念能力要非常強，從一開始就要知道，不會全部的人都喜歡你。」

近年逐漸擴展專業畛域，初次同時擔綱演員與監製，於電影《孤味》中便可窺見亮眼成績，身為構築戲劇的靈魂核心──選角，她也進而分享了自我的遴選準則，「相對輕鬆的做法是從演員的本質，散發出那個角色本身希望的特質，這樣是比較事半功倍的。」笑著透露從中獲得了許多成就感，憑藉智慧累積、經驗淬煉的敏銳直覺，為演員量身打造表演舞台，完好融合每個當下的喜怒哀樂，首映時的感動依舊難以言喻。

/百變時髦

出道三十多年，無論休閒、優雅、動感亦或復古造型，徐若瑄皆能輕鬆駕馭百變姿態，褪去華服後的她，私底下的穿搭單品非球鞋莫屬，黑白色系是百忙中不出差錯的選擇，笑說喜愛健步如飛的輕盈感，隨時為拉筋與慢跑做好準備，而棒球帽與毛線帽也是日常必備，捨去整理頭髮的瑣碎，一次性包色更增添了搭配的無限可能。

對於首飾的挑選指南，她表示特別喜歡耳扣，尤其低調顯露個性的銀色，透過風格疊搭營造層次感，簡約中自帶迷人氣息。談起人生首次大肆購物的逗趣經驗，徐若瑄笑答一切可追溯至1995年的日本，「那個時候是新人剛出道，沒有造型師，要自己去治裝，我跟姊姊就跑到新宿去買衣服，當時非常多二手衣店，簡直是大開眼界，我們是拿著雜誌在找衣服的，最後買到沒有錢坐計程車。」

下著雪的寒冬，從新宿一路推著行李箱到四丁目的狼狽場景，時至今日仍難以忘懷。面臨歲數逐年增長，她則保持著從容不迫的態度，透露自己沒有年齡界線的擔憂，每個生命階段皆是美好的過程，以十年為基準笑看人生，不可逆的韶光正促使著人們持續向前，十年一刻的況味值得靜心品茗。「我覺得笑容是最好的保養品，聽起來很簡單的兩個字，背後隱藏了非常深層的含義。」體現於看待事物如何轉念，將不好的際遇化作自身能量，為正向樂觀的展現；面對陌生人群時，願意給他人一抹微笑，為善解人意的體貼，「或許女人不一定要活得優雅，每個人個性都不一樣，但總要做一個開心的人吧！」

/靈魂本質 

人人皆知的鋼鐵 V 稱號，出於二十年前勉勵自我的信心喊話，從小受原生家庭的影響，造就了她獨立自主的性格，看似艱辛的成長過程，對此徐若瑄則相當感恩，「我覺得女人經濟自主就會快樂，這樣的獨立方式是一種安全感，就算年紀慢慢長了，也不會沒有安全感，因為你可以把自己的生命盡頭都安排得好好的。」笑說從來沒有期待孩子長大了要照顧自己，馳騁於世間，人人皆是獨立個體，不給彼此壓力是最愉快的相處方式，透過從事喜愛的演藝工作，進而尋得自我的存在價值。

奧黛麗赫本曾說：「女人的美不在於外表，而是她的靈魂，是她給予的關懷以及她展露的熱情。」同樣印證於徐若瑄所言，倘若虛有亮麗空殼，依舊無法散發迷人魅力，「熱情不一定是那種外露的，有時候是你對工作的投入、你對一件事的堅持，所給予的關懷是善解人意和關心身邊人的那顆心。」從傳統電視時代跨至數位網路平台，她坦言面對外界質疑的聲音，其消化過程為鍛鍊抗壓性的重要關鍵，「從一開始不敢相信到遍體鱗傷，到一笑置之，到面無表情，到接受然後無感放下。」眼下伴隨韶光溫養，緩緩道出起承轉合的她，如今的笑顏裡多了一份坦然自適。

/共情至深 

曾分享擔任歌手時，是最能展露真實自我的時刻，每日的豐厚點滴也經常成為創作的靈感來源，提起日常的音樂喜好，徐若瑄表示十分欣賞英國搖滾樂團Coldplay，除了身體力行每週一實踐吃素，也立定吸毒便退團的規定，給予粉絲相當正向的教育，「這是一個可以讓孩子們聽的搖滾樂團，裡面的歌詞是關於失意、失戀或失去親人，但最後都會給你一道光，讓你有一個正向的力量走出來，不論難過或開心都很適合聽。」尤其對《Fix You》感觸良多，陪伴了她走過父親離世的低潮，更笑說希望能有機會看到他們的演唱會，進而感受現場的情緒渲染。

問及近期推薦的電影作品，徐若瑄隨即回答《本日公休》，以台式理髮廳講述人的一生，主角為了老顧客的剪髮需求，展開了一段充滿溫情的旅程，「這是我帶我媽媽去看的，她年輕時曾經開過理髮院，所以我媽媽感觸很深，像裡面有個金句：『車就像人生一樣，直直開就順了！』我覺得陸小芬姐演得非常好，真的是哭死我了。」亦如主角活到老剪到老的堅毅精神，她期望自己也能亦步亦趨。

放眼現下擔綱音樂人、演員、製作人、母親、妻子等多重角色，「我每一個都做不到一百分，因為時間真的不夠用，但每個角色我都已經付出一百分的努力，所以如果下一秒就走了，我也沒有遺憾。」笑著透露當前最想達成的目標，是彈一手流利鋼琴，隨著情到深處可快可慢，全然享受音樂的完整性，話語至此，不妨期待來日她將持續解鎖哪些人生驚喜。

/Lasting Youth 

“To find my true love, I’ll give it all I’ve got. No matter how much sorrow or pain, who will care.” Humming along with the familiar tunes of “Unbeatable Lover” as she swayed with the music, her laugh was contagious, the kind that would make you laugh just by hearing it. The entire studio was instantly filled with this passionate and vibrant energy. “I believe the most beautiful aspect of a woman is her eyes. Without gratitude in her heart, her gaze will not be as charming, even if she is stunningly beautiful.” With those signature smiley eyes, she instantly evoked everyone’s adolescent memories – she is the goddess of lasting youth, Vivian Hsu. 

/All-Around Performances 

“The reunion made us go from mothers to being little girls again. Even though the time spent on stage was short, it was so precious and full of joy.” Recalling the performance she did with her close friend Chiharu Tamashiro about a month ago, where they sang in Mandarin, English and Japanese, Hsu smiled and said she had already cried all her tears during rehearsal. Through a night that was both intellectual and wild, a foreign friendship lasting over 20 years was expressed through the sincerity found in their shared love for music. If she was to turn the experience into a song, she would title it as “On a Swing.” “At our age, we don’t often go on swings anymore, so I want to name it ‘On a Swing’ to pay tribute to the purity of childhood, where we have full control over everything. Much similar to that night, where we performed slow and upbeat songs, folk and rock music, and shared intellectual and humorous moments. Perhaps our way of playing music was different, but our hearts were together.” Similarly, as the producer of “Next Girlz,” Hsu was deeply involved in the project, as the girls’ hard work often reminded her of the days when she first entered the industry. Humble, she pointed out that everyone on the show was much more composed and skilled in performing compared to her earlier self. Whether she exceled or appeared inexperienced, each member of the group possessed a unique charm. Treating her role as producer as her personal mission, Hsu aspired to impart the insights she had accumulated along the way to the younger generation who dreamed to become a performer. “You really have to think twice before becoming a public figure. You have to be resilient, always maintain a positive mindset and possess great adaptability. From the very beginning, you need to understand that not everyone is going to like you.” In recent years, as she gradually expanded her professional horizons, Hsu had taken on the roles of an actress and a producer for the first time. Her remarkable achievements could be seen in the film Little Big Women, where she chose the core role of any film – casting. “It is easier if you focus on the essence of the actor and try to match it with the desired qualities of the character. I find this method to be quite useful and efficient.” Chuckling, Hsu disclosed that she actually gained a great sense of fulfillment throughout the process. Channeling her wisdom and sharpened intuition from her past experiences, she tailored a stage for the actors and actresses, while perfectly integrating their emotions portrayed through every scene – the result showcased during the film’s premiere was still indescribable with words.  

/Versatile Fashion 

With a career spanning over 30 years, Hsu had effortlessly mastered a variety of styles, whether it’s casual, elegant, dynamic or vintage. Off-stage, her go-to fashion accessory was a pair of sneakers, as she preferred the lightness they provided and the fact that they always prepared her for stretching and jogging whenever she wanted. Opting for black and white color schemes was a fail-safe choice considering her busy schedule. Baseball caps and beanies were also essentials for her daily wear, items that allowed her to forgo the hassle of styling her hair every day. When it came to selecting jewelry, she was particularly fond of ear cuffs, especially those in understated silver tones to reveal her personality. Layering styles to create a sense of depth, the simplicity exuded a charming allure. Recalling a humorous experience of her very first shopping spree, Hsu laughed and said it all traces back to 1995 in Japan. “I was a newcomer in the industry without a stylist, so I had to plan my outfits on my own. My sister and I went shopping in Shinjuku because we knew there were a lot of thrift shops, but we were still surprised by the wide selection. We were trying to find the clothes we wanted according to the photos we saw in magazines. In the end, we couldn’t even take a taxi back because we ran out of money.” They ended up walking all the way to 4-chome Shinjuku in the snow, dragging their luggage along with them, a scene that remained unforgettable even till this day. As the years go by, Hsu continued to hold a calm and composed attitude and revealed that she isn’t worried about the boundaries of age. To her, every stage of life is a beautiful process and she sees it as ten-year increments. The irreversible passage of time should motivate people to keep moving forward, as the beauty of every decade is worth savoring. “I think a smile is the best skincare. One simple word, yet it carries a rather deep meaning.” The same concept could be used on turning unfavorable situations into positive, optimistic outlooks through personal energy. When encountering strangers, she was always willing to offer them a smile or a gesture that demonstrated her understanding. “Perhaps women don’t necessarily have to live elegantly because everyone has a different personality. But we should always strive to be happy!” 

/Essence of the Soul 

Hsu’s well-known nickname, “Iron V,” originated from a self-encouraging statement made 20 years ago that reflected her confidence. The upbringing of her native family shaped her independent and self-reliant personality. Despite the seemingly challenging process of growth, she was extremely grateful for it. “I believe women can find happiness through achieving economic independence. It provides a sense of security that doesn’t disappear even as we age, because you finally have the ability to plan out your life.” Never expecting her children to take care of her after they grow up, she saw everyone as an independent entity living in this world. Not putting pressure on one another was perhaps the most enjoyable way to live and interact. Through devoting herself to her beloved career of performing arts, Hsu had discovered her own sense of value. Audrey Hepburn once said, “The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mode, but the true beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It is the caring that she lovingly gives, the passion that she shows.” Similarly, this aligned with Hsu’s beliefs – if one only possesses a beautiful exterior without substance underneath, they still cannot radiate charm. “Passion isn’t always visible to the eye. Sometimes it is shown through your dedication to work, your perseverance and the care you are willing to give to the people you love.” Transitioning from the era of traditional television to digital platforms taking over, she admitted facing external criticism and learning to digest it had been crucial to developing resilience. “The process goes from initially not being able to believe what is happening, being hurt by it, brushing it off with a smile, having no expression, accepting it, to finally letting go without feeling a thing.” Setting eyes on the time that had passed, she gradually shared with us the transformation she had undergone and with a gentle smile, there was an extra sense of serenity and contentment. 

/Profound Empathy 

When sharing her experiences as a singer, Hsu mentioned that it was the moment when she could truly express her authentic self. The rich and meaningful snippets of her everyday life often served as inspiration for her creative work. A big fan of the British rock band Coldplay, she was especially impressed by their personal commitment towards vegetarianism and their strict no-drugs rule, which both sent a positive message to the fans supporting them. “They are a rock band who makes music that can be enjoyed by children. Though their lyrics touch upon themes of disappointment, heartbreak, or losing loved ones, they always end with a beam of light, offering a positive force to help their audience overcome hardships, and are perfect for both sad and happy moments.” Hsu particularly resonated with the song “Fix You,” for it accompanied her through the difficult time of her father’s passing. Smiling, she hoped that one day she will have the opportunity to attend their concert and experience the emotional atmosphere firsthand. Speaking of recent movie recommendations, Hsu immediately chose Day Off, a Taiwanese film that tells the story of a lifetime through a Taiwanese-style barbershop. The protagonist embarks on a heartwarming journey as she fulfills the haircutting requests given by her loyal customers. “I watched the movie with my mother and she was extremely moved by it because she used to own a barbershop when she was young. There was a particular line from the movie that goes, ‘Life is like driving a car, just keep going straight and everything will work out!’ Shao-Fen Lu delivered such an amazing performance, I couldn’t stop crying.” Inspired by the perseverance of the main character, who worked as a barber her whole life, Hsu aspired to follow a similar path for her career. Reflecting on her multiple roles as a musician, producer, mother and wife, she was unable to give herself a perfect score. “ There was simply not enough time. However, I am positive that I have put in a hundred percent into each role, so if I were to leave within the next second, I would have no regrets.” With a bright grin, she pointed out her current goal is to learn to play the piano well, in order to fully enjoy its completeness by exploring the depth and speed of the notes. As the interview came to an end, we couldn’t help but look forward to the future and anticipate the surprises Vivian Hsu is about to bring to her life.